buscho6 · 06-15-2006, 02:42 AM

I am doing a couple of prints at the moment that are eps (all vector) files. some of the files are only 635kb and the biggest is 1.4mb. For some reason Versaworks is taking forever to rip them.

I did a couple of prints yesterday that were TIFF's approx 56mb and it RIPPED them almost instantly. Has anyone got any ideas on what is happening?

airal20 · 06-15-2006, 08:14 AM

That sometimes happens to me. All i do is restart VersaWorks and it usually rips quicker.

eye4clr · 06-15-2006, 09:29 AM

what is the print dimension?

jayhawksigns · 06-15-2006, 09:44 AM

With Flexi it seems that the output size is more important then the size of the file you are printing. Figure the same would hold true here.

BDodson827 · 06-15-2006, 12:49 PM

Versaworks is crappy. Thats why. Call Roland, and they'll ask you if you've updated, thats about it.

It may just be a software conflict, I'd try to reinstall it.

eye4clr · 06-15-2006, 01:17 PM

jayhawk is on it. The RIP file size is based on dimension, dot screening (i think), and resolution. The raster files are already halfway to ripped. Vector stuff can take a while especially if there are design elements the RIP doesn't understand or handle well.

cieje · 06-15-2006, 04:15 PM

I've noticed that with some pdf files in colorrip. I've learned to attribute it to something to do with postscripting... try making sure any embedded fonts are outlines and not actual fonts; that might help.

tdgraphics · 06-15-2006, 05:25 PM

I was under the impression that when a RIP does its thing with a file, EPS, PDF, JPG etc it basically converts the file to a TIFF file anyway.

That is why when you RIP a TIFF file they RIP very very quickly.

I have also found Versaworks to take an age RIPping a JPG file. I found that restarting the machine from scratch and then trying again, seemed to do the trick. I was not sure if the problem was a memory issue (Versaworks having memory leakage). I have not had the problem with recent version of Versaworks so they may have fixed any problem. Currently running version 2.0.2 and that seems to be fine.

buscho6 · 06-15-2006, 07:09 PM

The dimensions for the partial vehicle wrap are 3145mm x 1250mm I think approx 10ft x 4ft in your language, all vector images. I am running Versworks 2.0.2 also. I tried pdf as well as eps and they do the same.

Previously when I had the sc500 with the basic colorchoice rip eps vector files were always the quickest and tiffs were the slowest.

My computer is only a P4 2.4 but with 120hd and 2G ram

I have attached a jpeg of the file

cieje · 06-16-2006, 08:39 AM

I don't think my rip software converts vector files to a tiff-like format... otherwise it wouldn't retain the vector information. I'm pretty sure it's just using a postscript type format (like pdf etc) that way it can easily handle vectorized and rasterized art within the given file limitations.

I have noticed with a few vector files... if you don't have closed nodes etc. or some really complex curves it makes colorip take longer as well. are you saving the file at 1:1 dimensions? maybe if you drop it to like 1/4 size or so then blow it up in the software that'd help.

06-15-2006, 02:42 AM	#1
buscho6 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: australia Posts: 100 Printer: SC-545 EX Pro II V	Slow ripping of small eps in versaworks I am doing a couple of prints at the moment that are eps (all vector) files. some of the files are only 635kb and the biggest is 1.4mb. For some reason Versaworks is taking forever to rip them. I did a couple of prints yesterday that were TIFF's approx 56mb and it RIPPED them almost instantly. Has anyone got any ideas on what is happening?

06-15-2006, 09:29 AM	#3
eye4clr Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,415 Printer: HP9000, HP45500, JV3, Onyx	what is the print dimension? __________________ -- Pacific Print Works "For every big problem there is a simple answer, and it's wrong." - Author unknown

06-15-2006, 09:44 AM	#4
jayhawksigns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 303 Printer: Mimaki JV3-160S w/ Triangle Inks	With Flexi it seems that the output size is more important then the size of the file you are printing. Figure the same would hold true here. __________________ Matthew Jayhawk Signs & Graphics www.jayhawksigns.com Got Squeege?

06-15-2006, 01:17 PM	#6
eye4clr Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,415 Printer: HP9000, HP45500, JV3, Onyx	jayhawk is on it. The RIP file size is based on dimension, dot screening (i think), and resolution. The raster files are already halfway to ripped. Vector stuff can take a while especially if there are design elements the RIP doesn't understand or handle well. __________________ -- Pacific Print Works "For every big problem there is a simple answer, and it's wrong." - Author unknown

06-15-2006, 07:09 PM	#9
buscho6 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: australia Posts: 100 Printer: SC-545 EX Pro II V	The dimensions for the partial vehicle wrap are 3145mm x 1250mm I think approx 10ft x 4ft in your language, all vector images. I am running Versworks 2.0.2 also. I tried pdf as well as eps and they do the same. Previously when I had the sc500 with the basic colorchoice rip eps vector files were always the quickest and tiffs were the slowest. My computer is only a P4 2.4 but with 120hd and 2G ram I have attached a jpeg of the file Attached Thumbnails

06-15-2006, 08:14 AM	#2
airal20 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boutte, LA Posts: 288 Printer: roland 540v	That sometimes happens to me. All i do is restart VersaWorks and it usually rips quicker.

06-15-2006, 12:49 PM	#5
BDodson827 Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 816 Printer: 74" Roland - Dye Sub Convert	Versaworks is crappy. Thats why. Call Roland, and they'll ask you if you've updated, thats about it. It may just be a software conflict, I'd try to reinstall it.

06-15-2006, 04:15 PM	#7
cieje Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mauldin, SC Posts: 144 Printer: SP300	I've noticed that with some pdf files in colorrip. I've learned to attribute it to something to do with postscripting... try making sure any embedded fonts are outlines and not actual fonts; that might help.

06-15-2006, 05:25 PM	#8
tdgraphics Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Allenwood, Co. Kildare, Ireland Posts: 485 Printer: VersaCamm SP540 V,Graphtec Cutter, RS1400C	I was under the impression that when a RIP does its thing with a file, EPS, PDF, JPG etc it basically converts the file to a TIFF file anyway. That is why when you RIP a TIFF file they RIP very very quickly. I have also found Versaworks to take an age RIPping a JPG file. I found that restarting the machine from scratch and then trying again, seemed to do the trick. I was not sure if the problem was a memory issue (Versaworks having memory leakage). I have not had the problem with recent version of Versaworks so they may have fixed any problem. Currently running version 2.0.2 and that seems to be fine.

06-16-2006, 08:39 AM	#10
cieje Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mauldin, SC Posts: 144 Printer: SP300	I don't think my rip software converts vector files to a tiff-like format... otherwise it wouldn't retain the vector information. I'm pretty sure it's just using a postscript type format (like pdf etc) that way it can easily handle vectorized and rasterized art within the given file limitations. I have noticed with a few vector files... if you don't have closed nodes etc. or some really complex curves it makes colorip take longer as well. are you saving the file at 1:1 dimensions? maybe if you drop it to like 1/4 size or so then blow it up in the software that'd help.

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