Speed Media · 01-20-2007, 01:45 PM

Hello all,
Just wanting to see if I can get some input. I am designing labels and identity for a national brand of new car cleaning products. In the process I offered to throw my name in the hat for the actual production of the labels. Now I know it is going to be hard to compete with "larger" companies on this but I really want the job. Basically the first run will be 6 products each in a 5,000 quantity for a midwest launch. I am wondering if anyone has done something like this and how to properly price it. They are going to be full color wrap around labels with lamination. Sizes range from 5" x 7" to 6" x 6" . I don't know if this is enough info or not, but let me know what you all think.

Thanks,
Kurt

CW Graphix · 01-20-2007, 11:40 PM

Use Stouse!

gabagoo · 01-20-2007, 11:54 PM

would that not be a job for a roll label company?

eye4clr · 01-21-2007, 08:44 AM

Personally, I'd not waste my time on it. You don't have the right kind of setup to do that volume. Your pricing could never compete with those that do.

bigbly · 01-21-2007, 04:46 PM

well why not give em a quote anyways, who knows what other prices they get.
some clients - I know, they're few and far between - just want a headache-free solution to their supply problem.
just make sure you know exactly how much it costs you to produce these and enough markup to make it worth your while..

airal20 · 01-22-2007, 06:13 PM

That is a very large order. I cant see how you would be able to sell them to the company at a competitve price AND make any kind of money. If you really want the job you should try to outsource it to a roll label company that will wholesale them to you, which may be difficult.

Speed Media · 01-22-2007, 07:55 PM

I see what you guys mean. I'd like to do the job, but it seems like it might be to much hassle. I looked into Stouse a little bit. I just want to make something on the job and sometime it seems like outsourcing kills your profit.

I guess it is what it is...

Thanks,
Kurt

eye4clr · 01-22-2007, 08:26 PM

call a local screen/offset/sticker printer and get the quote yourself. You may cry.

concept · 01-23-2007, 12:17 PM

I know that Universal Products (http://www.u-p.com/roll2.html) offer this service to the trade. They are very professional and already supply many companies in US. 'May worth a try!

'Just my 0.02 cents...

Speed Media · 01-23-2007, 03:48 PM

eye4clr: Thanks for the info and you are right I am about to cry.. Looks like this whole deal is going to make someone money, just not me.

Concept, thanks for the name....

01-20-2007, 01:45 PM	#1
Speed Media Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 70 Printer: Mimaki JV3 75SPII	Large run labels Hello all, Just wanting to see if I can get some input. I am designing labels and identity for a national brand of new car cleaning products. In the process I offered to throw my name in the hat for the actual production of the labels. Now I know it is going to be hard to compete with "larger" companies on this but I really want the job. Basically the first run will be 6 products each in a 5,000 quantity for a midwest launch. I am wondering if anyone has done something like this and how to properly price it. They are going to be full color wrap around labels with lamination. Sizes range from 5" x 7" to 6" x 6" . I don't know if this is enough info or not, but let me know what you all think. Thanks, Kurt

01-20-2007, 11:54 PM	#3
gabagoo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 561 Printer: mimaki jv3 spII	would that not be a job for a roll label company? __________________ Barry All Star Signs & Decals Ltd. Concord, Ontario Canada

01-21-2007, 08:44 AM	#4
eye4clr Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,406 Printer: HP9000, HP45500, JV3, Onyx	Personally, I'd not waste my time on it. You don't have the right kind of setup to do that volume. Your pricing could never compete with those that do. __________________ -- Pacific Print Works "For every big problem there is a simple answer, and it's wrong." - Author unknown

01-22-2007, 08:26 PM	#8
eye4clr Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,406 Printer: HP9000, HP45500, JV3, Onyx	call a local screen/offset/sticker printer and get the quote yourself. You may cry. __________________ -- Pacific Print Works "For every big problem there is a simple answer, and it's wrong." - Author unknown

01-23-2007, 12:17 PM	#9
concept Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Joliette, Qc (Canada) ---> 45 min. north of Montreal <--- Posts: 101 Printer: Roland VersaCamm SP-300	I know that Universal Products (http://www.u-p.com/roll2.html) offer this service to the trade. They are very professional and already supply many companies in US. 'May worth a try! 'Just my 0.02 cents... __________________ Yanick Coutu AUTO CONCEPT DESIGN

01-20-2007, 11:40 PM	#2
CW Graphix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 189 Printer: CW Enterprises	Use Stouse!

01-21-2007, 04:46 PM	#5
bigbly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 303 Printer: SJ-745EX, hp5000/5500, epson4000, summa d120se	well why not give em a quote anyways, who knows what other prices they get. some clients - I know, they're few and far between - just want a headache-free solution to their supply problem. just make sure you know exactly how much it costs you to produce these and enough markup to make it worth your while..

01-22-2007, 06:13 PM	#6
airal20 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boutte, LA Posts: 288 Printer: roland 540v	That is a very large order. I cant see how you would be able to sell them to the company at a competitve price AND make any kind of money. If you really want the job you should try to outsource it to a roll label company that will wholesale them to you, which may be difficult.

01-22-2007, 07:55 PM	#7
Speed Media Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 70 Printer: Mimaki JV3 75SPII	I see what you guys mean. I'd like to do the job, but it seems like it might be to much hassle. I looked into Stouse a little bit. I just want to make something on the job and sometime it seems like outsourcing kills your profit. I guess it is what it is... Thanks, Kurt

01-23-2007, 03:48 PM	#10
Speed Media Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 70 Printer: Mimaki JV3 75SPII	eye4clr: Thanks for the info and you are right I am about to cry.. Looks like this whole deal is going to make someone money, just not me. Concept, thanks for the name....

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