DOM360 · 02-01-2008, 01:05 PM

Is anyone using this printer?

Based on what I've read on the company website, I'm having a hard time differentiating between the postscript and non postscript versions.

I understand that both have an onboard spectrophotometer, but do they both offer automated profiling capabilities?

Mod-Zel · 02-01-2008, 02:16 PM

Generally, the postscript version allows you to print directly from Illustrator or Corel. Non postscript demands a RIP. A RIP will give you greater control and speed also.
You already have a 5500 and 5000ps? Aren't you already familiar with the postscript features?

DOM360 · 02-01-2008, 05:01 PM

Understood.

But what about the profiling features relative to each model?

wes · 02-04-2008, 09:03 PM

I have the z2100 without ps and print from Corel with no issues. Vector and Bitmap files.

Profiling is very easy. It is automated and does an excelent job.

MasterSolventTech · 08-08-2008, 04:37 PM

If you need to do a lot of profiling get a rip external spectro and a non ps version. If you dont and are printing on mainly HP medias save some $$ and go with the PS version.

Matt Cuellar · 08-08-2008, 06:08 PM

You need the PS version to enable to the onboard spectro for ICC profiles, otherwise it will just act as a colorimeter for linearization. PS also enables you to print directly from AI, PS, and other applications direct instead of routing through a 3rd party RIP. The automatic profiling features on the Z-series are really cool and VERY accurate, so definitely get the PS. Otherwise, non-ps with HP's Advanced Profiling Software and that'll do the trick too.

ziggytim · 08-12-2008, 03:09 PM

i wish my mimaki did ps....

eye4clr · 08-12-2008, 08:46 PM

If you have a proper RIP, you do ps.

RobbThurmond · 08-20-2008, 09:16 PM

I had one in the shop for a year, and it as non ps. It created profiles, but we could only use them through photoshop with the HP profile management software. Our sales rep told us that if we had the PS version, wou could export the profile information we generated and use them elsewhere. What does that mean? I think he was referring to the ICC it self and not the other components of the profile.

FWIW: I found that HP is very honest in their statement that the Z3100 is NOT a production printer. We killed it.

02-01-2008, 01:05 PM	#1
DOM360 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 Printer: OCE: CS6060 & Arizona 250GT; HP5500/5000; IGen3	Hewlett Packard Designjet Z3100 Is anyone using this printer? Based on what I've read on the company website, I'm having a hard time differentiating between the postscript and non postscript versions. I understand that both have an onboard spectrophotometer, but do they both offer automated profiling capabilities?

08-12-2008, 03:09 PM	#7
ziggytim Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 38 Printer: Mimaki Tx2 1200, DirectDye and Sublimation Inks	i wish my mimaki did ps.... __________________ Born with ink in my veins.... anyone hiring? i'm willing (and eager) to move.

08-12-2008, 08:46 PM	#8
eye4clr Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,406 Printer: HP9000, HP45500, JV3, Onyx	If you have a proper RIP, you do ps. __________________ -- Pacific Print Works "For every big problem there is a simple answer, and it's wrong." - Author unknown

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02-01-2008, 02:16 PM	#2
Mod-Zel Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 34 Printer: HP9000s, HP5000	Generally, the postscript version allows you to print directly from Illustrator or Corel. Non postscript demands a RIP. A RIP will give you greater control and speed also. You already have a 5500 and 5000ps? Aren't you already familiar with the postscript features?

02-01-2008, 05:01 PM	#3
DOM360 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 36 Printer: OCE: CS6060 & Arizona 250GT; HP5500/5000; IGen3	Understood. But what about the profiling features relative to each model?

02-04-2008, 09:03 PM	#4
wes Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Digby, Nova Scotia Posts: 16 Printer: HP Z2100	I have the z2100 without ps and print from Corel with no issues. Vector and Bitmap files. Profiling is very easy. It is automated and does an excelent job.

08-08-2008, 04:37 PM	#5
MasterSolventTech Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 71 Printer: All solvent and aqueous	If you need to do a lot of profiling get a rip external spectro and a non ps version. If you dont and are printing on mainly HP medias save some $$ and go with the PS version.

08-08-2008, 06:08 PM	#6
Matt Cuellar Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 41 Printer: ValueJet, Graphtec FC-7000, HP Z6100, T1100, Z2100	You need the PS version to enable to the onboard spectro for ICC profiles, otherwise it will just act as a colorimeter for linearization. PS also enables you to print directly from AI, PS, and other applications direct instead of routing through a 3rd party RIP. The automatic profiling features on the Z-series are really cool and VERY accurate, so definitely get the PS. Otherwise, non-ps with HP's Advanced Profiling Software and that'll do the trick too.

08-20-2008, 09:16 PM	#9
RobbThurmond Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 25 Printer: HP 5500, HP Z6100, GBC Titan 165, Seal 44 Ultra	I had one in the shop for a year, and it as non ps. It created profiles, but we could only use them through photoshop with the HP profile management software. Our sales rep told us that if we had the PS version, wou could export the profile information we generated and use them elsewhere. What does that mean? I think he was referring to the ICC it self and not the other components of the profile. FWIW: I found that HP is very honest in their statement that the Z3100 is NOT a production printer. We killed it.

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